Posts by Anders Andersen

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Android browser: search and edit don't work.

by Anders Andersen in

hi simon,.

thanks for maintaining this forum.. i use this site almost exclusively on my android phone and tablet.. there are 2 annoying issues there:.

search doesn't work.

Anders Andersen

@Simon,

Did you change anything with regards to the edit function? It works now, and AFAIK nothing changed on my side.

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I predicted a lottery number from a pattern, is the lottery NOT random or is random held to a universal force?

by EndofMysteries in

i've studied and observed several lottery patterns.

this one is now gone so nothing lost by revealing it.

i had a certain history search and noticed that almost each week the past few months a list of numbers not used recently were being used 1 per week.

Anders Andersen

many people tend to see patterns in data when in fact there are none.

We are wired that way.

Leaves rustle, so it must be a predator! Run (and survive and pass your pattern seeking genes to next generation).

We exist, so the must be a creator! Pray (and stop thinking and pass your idiot ideas to next generation as truth).

People not understanding true randomness, and wanting to see patterns everywhere is the one reason prayer 'works'.

Also, loteries are for evil greedy people. I know coz the FDS told me so!

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Share Your Personal Experiences Please!

by LaurenM in

so since leaving the borg i've made quite a few stupid mistakes, hurting myself a lot..but i finally feel like i've learned and i think, in time, i'll find my happiness again...even more happiness that i could've ever had being a jw.. but my question to you guys is, what was your experience like leaving the borg?

did you struggle at all?

how long have you been out?

Anders Andersen

@Fiiddler,

There is hope for your daughter!

My brother DFed 20 ago
My mother inactive (apostate) 10 ago
My sister faking for 10 years
My little sis DAd 9 years ago

I was so proud that I endured all that shit, shunned half of them, and stayed in the truth! Yay strong me!

I was the only of 4 children who was still in.

My family never pressured me (looking by, my mother and my sister both tried very gently to tell me TTATT once, but that didn't work back then). And now I figured it out all by myself.

Everybody happy ;-D (except my wife and still-in-laws)

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Why the Governing Body caught a frightful fright

by Saintbertholdt in

it has been extensively reported on the forum that there has been a marked increase in effort over the past two years by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses to encourage an increase in monetary donations.

this has also been accompanied by the stripping of financial capital from the local congregations.

as has also been reported on this forum, this has in all probability been done to facilitate the financing of the vast new hq building project as well as the financing of the shift from a publishing company to becoming an internet based charismatic multimedia company which produces lame pixar/disney animation knock offs while simultaneously parading the governing body's ever expanding waistlines, blingy accoutrements and stupid grins.. meanwhile the financials of the organization remains as murky as ever.

Anders Andersen

our former spiritual Amway

Loool :-D

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What is your relationship with ALCOHOL?

by nicolaou in

here in the uk new drinking guidelines have been issued which suggest "no more than 14 units a week - equivalent to six pints of beer or seven glasses of wine.".

another piece of the advice which is getting a lot of attention is that "if people drink, it should be moderately over three or more days and that some days should be alcohol-free.".

already people are making cries of "nanny state!

Anders Andersen

That's one reason I became a JW these people really love the wine, that's the religion for me.

So true. A converted sister (not born in I mean) in our cong. always commented on how every JW who visits brings booze or wine. She couldn't drink fast enough to decrease her stockpile. She never experienced that with them godless worldly people. (Well maybe it's her fault - slow drinker)

@FMF, South Florida....hmm that's only 2 hours by train and then a 9 hour (maybe 10?) flight for me :-p

But maybe my job sends me to Boca Raton some day (branch over there)....

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What is your relationship with ALCOHOL?

by nicolaou in

here in the uk new drinking guidelines have been issued which suggest "no more than 14 units a week - equivalent to six pints of beer or seven glasses of wine.".

another piece of the advice which is getting a lot of attention is that "if people drink, it should be moderately over three or more days and that some days should be alcohol-free.".

already people are making cries of "nanny state!

Anders Andersen

I'm with FMF,

A couple beers every night until in my 30, switched to much less beer, and have few wines instead.

Now it's whiskey straight up, but I limit myself to 1 or 2 small glasses on weekends only. And holidays. And events. And when I deserve it.

My only coffee habit is espresso (pref. double) after diner.

Now them cigars look promising, but my still in wife will leave me the minute I buy one....so FMF where do you live? I'll come over for the weekend ;-)

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"Apostates " how honest are we?

by closed in

as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

i was involved in a number of jc.

some i dealt with are good friends now.

Anders Andersen

@FreeMindFade,

Interesting quote in that image...where is it from?

@Tenacious,

Nice post!

@Cognac,

To clear up what you possibly misunderstood:

You seem to understand from the OP that he didn't like dubs lied to him during JCs?

But his point was that some people lied about their JC after it took place, and discredited the Borg and the JC with lies in newspapers.

Hence the question: how honest are apostates?

Anyway y'all already kissed and made up :-)

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I almost died laughing at the meeting last night. OMG WTF is going on? Have I been away this long?

by macys in

ok so most of you guys know already that i am going through the reinstatement process for my parents but i do have a partially sinister plan which i will not mention here since someone told me that there are b-lites that read boards like this.

last night and it was the funniest experience i have ever seen.

besides that the brother doing the sound and video screwed up the whole thing when showing the videos and it took 3 brothers to fix it after 10 minutes, the whole thing was a joke.

Anders Andersen

Nice post. I'm almost tempted to join my wife for the meeting tonight

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Do the Governing body really have the power some think they do?

by sherrie11 in

i mentioned this in a previous post, i feel the current gb truly believe they are chosen by god and are indoctrinated just as much as the rank and file.

they are deluded in their belief that they are guardians of the doctrine.

they are suffering from cognitive dissonance just as much.

Anders Andersen

Very nice quote!

While looking for the source, I found the original to have even a little better applicable to obeying Dubs:

They must find it hard to take Truth for authority who have so long mistaken Authority for Truth.

A Retort, from Gerald Massey's Lecturesc.1900; often cited as They must find it difficult, those who have taken authority as truth, rather than truth as authority.

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Reply to Bugbear: Why I believe in the Bible

by Saved_JW in

[some words i corrected for spelling & grammer] .

"i have been studying the bible for almost 20 years....after graduating in history and science comparing to the the bible, i have have come to to the conclusion that the bible cannot give you any reason to believe in it at all.

so i wonder, why do you use the bible as facit to your believes?

Anders Andersen

I agree with you in that we all have biases.

And of course everyone is free to reject or accept anything as evidence as they see fit.

After all, people are the same in that they are all unique.

We bring our own background, upbringing, culture, preferences and way of thinking into any decision we make.

This means that people who really investigate and think about what they believe or not (like you) can still believe in God(s) and be religious.

While (some/many) people on both sides of the spectrum of belief might not be able to understand why the other side reached a different conclusion, they should not conclude that the other ones are necessarily stupid.

However, I must strongly object to the false dichotomy you proposed:

Those who are not changed by God, will live in rebellion and will hate Him. Its really one or the other.

To me this statement is equivalent to an atheist calling everyone who believes in God deluded or assume they are not thinking clearly.

Also, the statement is not true at all.

There is another option.

I was not changed by God. I begged Him to help me believe in Him.

Nothing happened.

According to your statement, I must now hate God. I don't. I simply do not have any reason to believe He exists.

I don't hate God at all.

If I ever see any reasons to believe again, I gladly will, without resentment.

No hard feelings towards God.

Does one really live in rebellion if the authority one does not obey does not really exist?

My behaviour might not always be according to (Bible) God's wishes, but that is not because I resist his authority.

It's because I have never been able to ever verify there even is such an authority to rebel against.

If that authority becomes clear, I'll gladly obey (if the demands are as could reasonably expected from a loving authority that has good intentions).

And of course, if I were not an atheist but a religious Jew or any other non-Christian religion, we would have this very same discussion.

If I were a Christian, I would have to have this same discussion with Jews, Muslims and many others. Regardless of which God one obeys, there is always another group claiming you live in rebellion against (their) God.